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Ahahahahhaa, look at Sarkozy's face as well.

i liked this version a lot better:



obama: "alright alright boys settle do- GOD DAAMN"

world leaders are frat boys

click the youtube D:<
its 5mins of total pro-click-zone

I watch the news solely to see hot random chicks at these sort of events. There are a surprising amount of them.

Both of those are old news to me.

The video of obama checking out that girl's ass actually shows him helping the black lady directly behind him in the photo, down the stairs. He's looking at the floor to make sure she steps down correctly. Sarkozy, however, is shown to, indeed, be checking out the girl's ass in both photo and video.

As far as the war profiteering goes, that's not even the half of it. I read recently that a 30 year decorated marine was shot in the face with a shotgun. Military/FBI/Government said it was a suicide. Marine's brother does independent investigation sending evidence/data to outside university and law enforcement agencies for second opinions. All independent sources say there was blunt trama to the back of the head before the shot was fire. Furthermore, forensics says the blood isn't in the right places for it to have been a suicide. He was blown away. Why the government cover up? A little while later the family found his notes. He was writing a book exposing the military illegally selling arms in south america, and bringing back drugs to the state.

Mind you, neither of those allegations are new: the drug cartel used in American Gangster has the military doing the same shit from Vietnam. And the military has backed multiple coups in South America.

Corruption in the government and governmental agencies of the US is absolute. Obama's got his heart in the right place, but there's little he can do against forces that have been around and in power since before he was born.

I don't see the States surviving past this decade. Or, at least if they do, it's after one hell of a fucking crisis. We haven't seen anything yet. It's falling apart now, and we're being systematically looted by the very people who broke us.

You guys know that the FED? The Federal Reserve? It's a private bank. A private back that congress delegated it's money-creation/supply powers to in the 1920s. 10 years after it did that, we had the Great Depression and a policy of inflation started. You know that the price of bread was basically the same from the inception of the US until the 1920s? If a guy buried $100 in his backyard in 1800, and his great great grandson dug it up in 1910, that $100 could buy basically the same amount of goods. Imagine that today.

I bring this up because one source of the breakdown to come is the loss of control for the US money supply. The USD is the world's reserve currency. As such, the whole world has been artificially inflating it at the expense of their own economies as a means of protecting their fiscal interests in it. Which means the US economy has been a bubble for decades. This financial crisis of the past year? I'd like to think it's the beginning, but I'm more prone to say it's "just" the beginning. As in, we're not even too the middle yet, not even through with the beginning.

You remember when gas was $4.50 a gallon a year and a half ago? There was a big fear that truckers wouldn't drive their shipments because they wouldn't be making any money. Just to give you an idea of why that's a problem: most US cities only have food supply for 5-7 days, and they get all their food from trucks. Food riots, if truckers stop trucking. You say, o, an industry won't shut down! But look at the government. Look at California! They're paying people in IOUs. I O FUCKING Us! The largest state economy in the country--5 years ago it was the 5th largest economy in the world if measured alone!--and it is flat fucking broke.

The federal government isn't much better. They're in so much trouble, that at auctions for US Treasury Bonds this past year, they have had to lower their prices consistently for lack of buyers. As soon as there's no buyers AFTER they compromise on their terms, that's a sign of the US's impending collapse.

This post is getting too long. I'm ending it here. Maybe I'm just a crazy, but I've had 25 hours free at work every week for the past year, and only the internet to keep me company. I've kept up on current events, and read independent analysis and reports. I've seen the main stream media say one thing, independent reports say another, and sure enough--the media is wrong, the independents are right. Then the media changes its tune overnight, if they do at all, and yet they still spin shit.

There are no friends of the people anymore. Everyone with power is against the people. They're harvesting the sheep. We're at a point where there's only skin left, no wool.

Copypasta'd from Vanilla Bryce:I bring this up because one source of the breakdown to come is the loss of control for the US money supply. The USD is the world's reserve currency. As such, the whole world has been artificially inflating it at the expense of their own economies as a means of protecting their fiscal interests in it. Which means the US economy has been a bubble for decades. This financial crisis of the past year? I'd like to think it's the beginning, but I'm more prone to say it's "just" the beginning. As in, we're not even too the middle yet, not even through with the beginning.

In response to this point,

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aeFVNYQpByU4

July 10 (Bloomberg) -- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev illustrated his call for a supranational currency to replace the dollar by pulling from his pocket a sample coin of a “united future world currency.”

“Here it is,” Medvedev told reporters today in L’Aquila, Italy, after a summit of the Group of Eight nations. “You can see it and touch it.”

The coin, which bears the words “unity in diversity,” was minted in Belgium and presented to the heads of G-8 delegations, Medvedev said.

The question of a supranational currency “concerns everyone now, even the mints,” Medvedev said. The test coin “means they’re getting ready. I think it’s a good sign that we understand how interdependent we are.”

Medvedev has repeatedly called for creating a mix of regional reserve currencies as part of the drive to address the global financial crisis, while questioning the U.S. dollar’s future as a global reserve currency. Russia’s proposals for the G-20 meeting in London in April included the creation of a supranational currency.

Yea, I read that article. Do you know what that means?

It means our creditors will be calling for their bills to be paid. And America can't do it. So what America is trying to do right now, is inflate their currency. That way, when we have to pay back those bills, it's with inflated dollars, and the real-value that is being paid back is lower. The problem is, America isn't set up right now to protect against run-away inflation. We're going to destroy the value of our dollar. The American Empire will collapse.

America does not have any other choice, unless they somehow earn back all their foreign debts via innovation/hardwork/whatever. Is there any other solution?

So for someone with a totally un-political mind (me), how does this affect everyone outside the US?

If the US economy fails everybody is fucked. Some more than others, but us the in UK are probably going to feel it pretty hard.

I haven't heard such pessimism coming from someone who I've pinned as reasonable. This is terribly exciting.

Copypasta'd from Vanilla Bryce:Obama's got his heart in the right place, but there's little he can do against forces that have been around and in power since before he was born.

Don't absolve him of too much blame, he fucking campaigned on increasing our already disgusting defense budget. In fact many of the people in power today rely on the military industrial complex's existence, if they weren't being propped up with millions upon millions of dollars in campaign donations it would give somebody outside of the two party system even a small shot at winning. He's been entirely implicit in running down America because he's not for change and never was, his interests lie with lobbyists just like every single other politican in Washington. It's not even that he's a bad a president - he's the status quo, average, exactly like the rest of them. The position of president is made such that only a shitty person can fill it and anyone actually looking for change won't get anywhere near that seat for a very long time.

This leads me to a question, how should we change this? A lot of people simply show up on election day and place their vote for a third party and forget about it. This tactic to me seems pretty useless, we must focus on getting actual leaders elected to smaller office across the country and then work on getting them into the running for congressional/presidential campaigns. Although what precludes all of this is having a party that doesn't suck ass to support. There's bout five different socialist/labor parties in America that I'm aware of and they all seem equally ineffectual. A lot of the differences third parties claim to have with one another seem really petty, I really can't understand why they refuse to cooperate when it so obviously pushes them into obscurity.

Copypasta'd from Vanilla Bryce:You guys know that the FED? The Federal Reserve? It's a private bank. A private back that congress delegated it's money-creation/supply powers to in the 1920s. 10 years after it did that, we had the Great Depression and a policy of inflation started. You know that the price of bread was basically the same from the inception of the US until the 1920s? If a guy buried $100 in his backyard in 1800, and his great great grandson dug it up in 1910, that $100 could buy basically the same amount of goods. Imagine that today.

You're right that the way the Fed is run can't possibly be helping America, but I'm not sure this issue is so cut and dry as you make it seem. In 1800 our industrial infrastructure was basically nonexistant just as it was in 1700, but since then it has completely exploded and inflation went with it. During the 1800s there was indeed inflation, but it was still being subsidized by the third world. Today of course we're still basically extorting them, but it doesn't even come close to the practices we used in the past (basically slavery). I'm not sure if you're advocating a return to the gold standard, but it's honestly worse than our current system is in spite of inflation - in the past we went through many, many more depressions than we do now.

Copypasta'd from Vanilla Bryce:You remember when gas was $4.50 a gallon a year and a half ago? There was a big fear that truckers wouldn't drive their shipments because they wouldn't be making any money. Just to give you an idea of why that's a problem: most US cities only have food supply for 5-7 days, and they get all their food from trucks. Food riots, if truckers stop trucking. You say, o, an industry won't shut down! But look at the government. Look at California! They're paying people in IOUs. I O FUCKING Us! The largest state economy in the country--5 years ago it was the 5th largest economy in the world if measured alone!--and it is flat fucking broke.

Yep I'm sure you know this as well as I, but I think it's worth illustrating - California is currently projected to be 40 billion dollars in debt by next year. We have basically an annual crisis putting together our state budget, the current one involves massive cuts to schools, welfare, basically everything our government supports that actually helps its citizens. I don't believe it's so deliberate as to be an explicit oppression of the people, but it surely works in that manner. In fact the lack of a decent education for the public is probably the biggest problem we face, if everyone was adequately educated there would be nobody to support the lying, thieving, corrupt politicians we put into power today.

Copypasta'd from Tom:So for someone with a totally un-political mind (me), how does this affect everyone outside the US?

Of course because the United States is so powerful its slow collapse will affect the rest of the world pretty heavily, but don't get me wrong, the repression of the weak and poor is a global phenomenon that puts everyone at fault.

I see things pretty similar to you Ceo.

As far as absolving Obama of guilt, I think it's more that compared to Bush he's a relief, even if he's just a higher class of the same. I'm not happy with him, but then about once a week, once every other week, I hear about something he's done that just makes me go, alright, that's a step in the right direction. Except a step isn't changing anything when we're miles away from where we should be.

Honestly, I think there's definite fraud in the voting system. I think if you saw overwhelming 3rd party support in America you'd have a situation similar to Iran: the official results would support the power-player, while exit polls (maybe--these are mainstream media tools) would show a more accurate picture. Question is: what would the people do?

Probably pout and go home. Who knows? I don't have a lot of faith in our country when a third of us are obese. I don't see those people fighting for much of anything, at least not with a lot of sumo lessons first.

As far as gold standard vs our current inflation levels: our policy of inflation worked wonders during the mid 1900s when all our borrowing went into industry and production, but now it's consumer borrowing. Maybe the gold standard isn't the way to go, but we need our money to actually represent something. This fiat currency is the devil. It's a primary reason any of this has been able to happen. Another being, what you mentioned with the position of president: only the bad can get into power. All those regulators that are supposed to protect the people from corporations? They're bought off before they even get close to the promotion. Government? In the pocket of industry. When the public sector is owned by the private sector, that's called fascism. America is a fascist country, and it's pretty damn close to a theocratic fascist state. I know you lose an argument when you bring up Hitler... but Nazi Germany was a theocratic fascist state. And it's well known that one reason we were so late in entering the war was because a lot of people in power sympathized with Hitler and the Nazi party.

I feel dirty after making that last connection... yuck.

I feel horrible for being so ignorant right now.

It all depends on how much Obama can do before he's either assassinated, or China unzip their flies and everyone goes I thought Chinks were tiny?! WTF!!! and the US loose pole position in the world, maybe forever.

I'm not really sure what would happen if the US does fall apart like the USSR, would Central and South America go bananas like the Balkans? Would Chavez become the glorious leader of the Americas? Would Canada have to step in to stop looting? What the fuck would happen? The implications of a world without the US being a superpower are quite frightening. If it does happen, I doubt we'd see the mafia swooping in and emptying Fort Bragg of all their excellent goodies and selling them to Mexicans or whoever wants them, but some pretty nasty shit would probably disappear to be used in Africa or SE Asia once China flex their new imperial muscles.

Actually, the shift of world power has been pretty reliably predicted to go to BRIC: Brazil, Russia, India, China. These are the countries that are pushing for a new world currency as well.

I read recently more and more experts are just going with BIC now. Russia has just seen massive GDP shrinkage (can't remember the exact figures...) so analysts are ruling them out.

The world better start buying Ford Fusions and Americans better start unplugging their electronics. Oh, and don't forget to inflate your tires properly to achieve maximum gas mileage!

I don't believe our economy is just going to tank, but I am sure that the rising nations previously mentioned will soon be crowding up the pedestal that America is resting its fat ass on right now. The world is going to go through some troubles during the next decade or so, but it's all a circulatory system that keeps on going in the end. We're building up a nasty clot right now, but it shouldn't be large enough to halt the system and cause catastrophic consequences. We are in trouble, but I think most of the negativity is purely speculative and has been blown out of proportion.

This thread reads more LF than I do @_@

Copypasta'd from Blaze:The world better start buying Ford Fusions and Americans better start unplugging their electronics. Oh, and don't forget to inflate your tires properly to achieve maximum gas mileage!

Now you're getting at the root of a different problem. There's a belief in America, and in the world probably, that individuals can make a difference. If individuals make lifestyle changes, then we can save the world! It's false though. Individuals consume only a fraction of the world's resources. It's corporations and industry that use, abuse, and exploit the vast majority of the world's resources, and it's only by regulating and changing these powerful systems already in place that we can truly make a difference.

A difference in what?

O, that environment thing. I don't know about global warming, but I do know about environmental change. Glaciers are melting fucking EVERYWHERE. Developing nations are deforesting their entire countries in an effort to become industrialized. We're fucking destroying the ocean, massacring it. The world we're growing up in is not going to be the world our grandchildren know. And I don't mean in the sense that the world we grew up in wasn't the one our grandparents knew. I mean the world as we know it won't exist after food and water riots. And I'm talking decades from now, but only today I saw reports that India is rationing water.

This is a fucking huge problem that can only be solved by radical change. We're going to see more of this around the world.

And, that's fresh water we're talking about. Let's look at the ocean. Do you know about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch?

Copypasta'd from The Dunwich Horror:This thread reads more LF than I do @_@

i guess that makes you first against the wall

Dude, I'm on the other side of the wall.

What's LF, and what the fuck was that commercial?

This is LF and it is your new home. And this is an img heavy thread about Israel/Palestine that will make you cry.
Edit: also the thread about the cellphone ad

Can you believe I don't have an SA account yet? I used to lurk their porn forum when there was a porn forum in the 8th grade. There's still a photo of a red head in a catholic school girl's outfit, shot from the floor up, that I can't get out of my head. That image is so fappable, if I was president, I'd make the FBI find it.

Also: a note of hope. I don't think America is doomed. I think it's doomed if it doesn't do anything to change. Ooooo what an evil word, change. But hear me out. I think they need to find a new industry. I think legalizing drugs, taxing them, is a solution, though minor. I think green energy is a major solution for the world's problems, though minor for the US's. I think new scientific breakthroughs could promote more commercial industry. Fixing health care, to make it affordable for all Americans, and bottom-line better, even though it's an additional burden on the government, would do wonders in the short and long-term. Also, legalizing drugs reduces the police state and our Prison-Industrial Complex that takes more liberties with our tax money than a catholic priest does with the altar boy.

All of those are minor fixes though. But together, they can make a major change. And America can be a world power again.

However, even then, I think the word World Power will have to be redefined. Not world power as in imperialistic, but World Power as in a role model, a leader by example, an innovator that enables other countries to change through the promise of a brighter future, and the realization of that future in it's own land.

Maybe a revolution needs to happen first though. Who knows. Frankly, I don't respect most Americans enough to put my ass on the street and riot for them. Because I know they can't get their fat asses through the door, and they probably think I'm a terrorist, and they aren't using any of those liberties of theirs I'm trying to protect anyway.

jesus man ill buy you an account whisper me your email

shit i'd hit that ass too. i saw that pic on the front page of Toronto's biggest paper as i was going to work. i was like "ell oh ell".

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Bryce in 2:25 of this vid.

SO good!

Number 6 may somehow be even better. Mind blowing.

Lol, "waking up is a strange reason to die"

Autotune the News is one of my favorites.

I watched all of them and I think #5 is the best by a long stretch.

New Political Topic

To the Moon? Or Mars? Or nay?

I think we need to become a two-planet society. Moon experimentation and Mars exploration are necessary for our long-term survival as a species. Granted it takes a shitload of money for us to be involved in these sorts of things, but isn't life too precious to risk survival on one planet? We need to figure out how it would be feasible for us to start living in these other environments.

is there even anything useful on mars? why dont we just do whatever you plan on having done there here?

because there's a shit-ton of space up there. You could have the sweetest game room.

Two-planet solution.

i say we stay here on good old Earth. i'd rather kill a spac

Eventually we have to progress to off-world sites. Establish a colony on the moon first, to test our ability to do so on mars, and for scientific research. The biggest reason we have to establish a colony on Mars though is simple survival. If we only stay on Earth, then when there's no more Earth, there's no more Humans.

As much as I'd like us to progress to off-world colonies and sites, it's not going to happen with Government money. It's going to happen when the private sector can profit from it. Space tourism has already begun, but it'll get cheaper to sell tickets and run launches, and once that happens, Space won't be enough. The really rich people who are like "Space? lol that's so last decade; my tickets cost 200,000 USD back then. You're only paying 30,000 for yours today!" those people won't want to go to space. They'll want to go to the moon. And then you have moon tourism. And once you have moon tourism, you can try to set up a moon base. And once that moon base is set up, you'll find private industry wanting to harvest resources from the moon. Moon dust? That stuff is potent! It'll make the strongest concrete imaginable! Let's bring some of that back and build government buildings with it!

It's only a little time then, before we jump from moon-base to mars base. And it'll all be done with Private money. Corporations will do this.

Which ony gives more reason to put corporations in check today, so that when they really get more power, we can make sure it's not abused.

How do you suppose we survive on the moon without food/water and in those temperatures as well?

Also, I think everyone should watch the trailer for "Moon", which is being released in some cinemas now.

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.

The moon solution only lasts so long, until the moonies use their super smart moon computer to rebel and start throwing chunks of steel at us until we recognise their independence.

Copypasta'd from Vanilla Bryce:Eventually we have to progress to off-world sites. Establish a colony on the moon first, to test our ability to do so on mars, and for scientific research. The biggest reason we have to establish a colony on Mars though is simple survival. If we only stay on Earth, then when there's no more Earth, there's no more Humans.

As much as I'd like us to progress to off-world colonies and sites, it's not going to happen with Government money. It's going to happen when the private sector can profit from it. Space tourism has already begun, but it'll get cheaper to sell tickets and run launches, and once that happens, Space won't be enough. The really rich people who are like "Space? lol that's so last decade; my tickets cost 200,000 USD back then. You're only paying 30,000 for yours today!" those people won't want to go to space. They'll want to go to the moon. And then you have moon tourism. And once you have moon tourism, you can try to set up a moon base. And once that moon base is set up, you'll find private industry wanting to harvest resources from the moon. Moon dust? That stuff is potent! It'll make the strongest concrete imaginable! Let's bring some of that back and build government buildings with it!

It's only a little time then, before we jump from moon-base to mars base. And it'll all be done with Private money. Corporations will do this.

Which ony gives more reason to put corporations in check today, so that when they really get more power, we can make sure it's not abused.

that's what im saying, that moon dust isn't actually harvestable, mars dust isnt harvestable, and even if they were, it wouldn't be profitable to rocket them back to earth. even if you were to set up an entire terraforming process, why not just do that on earth? it seems to me like if we're ever going to leave this planet it shouldnt necessarily be until a long, long time from now (we mathemetically have earth running at full efficiency, or it would some how be more efficient to start setting up a colony on moon/mars for what ever reason (space prostitution maybe?))

There are some advantages to growing crops in the great caverns beneath the moon's surface.

For one it is a completely sealed environment, with each dome having its own oxygen sustainers, thus we get none of the contaminates that so easily invade our earth crops. Also the less gravity is benifical to many plant species which flurish on the moon like they never could on earth.

The major problem with the moon is it lacks raw materials, so almost everything would have to be brought up from earth.

The moon would not only be a good learning station for future colonies, but a launching station too. Less gravity and lack of atmosphere make it ideal.

cool info :^)

Do you realize what less gravity does to the beer brewing process on the moon? That, using the finest moon hops, creates the smooth malty flavour that is Moon Ale, the most popular drink in the solar system.

It gets down to 70degree Kelvin on the moon... (-200 degrees celcius). Not sure how much energy makes it there from the sun for photosynthesis. Not sure if it would be the greatest place to grow crops.

edit* wiki says max temp of 390K which is 117 degrees celcius, so maybe there is enough energy. How would you regulate the extreme temperatures though? Vacuum insulation is an option, but you'd still have somehow create/control the internal temperature.

Yes, I'm pretty sure sunglight would effect the growth rate of plants that are in giant underground greenhouse caverns.

You're talking surface temperatures in an atmosphere-free environment, obviously crops aren't gonna do well there. Beneath the surface heat can be regulated and artifical sunlight delivered to the plants for the optimal time periods.

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Bryce Edit: thanks caz, can always count on you to make browsing at work a horrible experience.